Legislature(2017 - 2018)CAPITOL 106

03/29/2018 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearings: State Medical Board TELECONFERENCED
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 174 PROGRAMS FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 174 Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invited/Public> --
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 108 MEDICAL CARE/LICENSING/MEDICAL BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSSSB 108(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invited/Public> --
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 358 INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR TELEHEALTH TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 358 Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invited/Public> --
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HJR 32 CONST. AM: PARENTAL CONSENT TO ABORTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 193 HEALTH CARE; BALANCE BILLING TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 193(HSS) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
            HB 358-INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR TELEHEALTH                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:48:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO.  358, "An Act  relating to  insurance coverage                                                               
for benefits  provided through telehealth;  and providing  for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:48:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BERNICE  NISBETT,  Staff,  Representative Ivy  Spohnholz,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,   declared  that  there  had   not  been  any                                                               
opposition  to the  proposed bill  and she  paraphrased from  the                                                               
Sectional Analysis [Included in members' packets], which read:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     AS  21.42.422 has  been  amended  to require  insurance                                                                    
     coverage for benefits provided via telehealth.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     AS 21.42.422  is a new  subsection that  defines health                                                                    
     care insurer  as a person  transacting the  business of                                                                    
     health   care  insurance   except   for  a   nonfederal                                                                    
     governmental  plan.  It  also adds  the  definition  of                                                                    
     telehealth  under  47.05.270(e)   as  the  practice  of                                                                    
     health    care    delivery,   evaluation,    diagnosis,                                                                    
     consultation,  or  treatment,  using  the  transfer  of                                                                    
     health  care  data  through   audio,  visual,  or  data                                                                    
     communications,  performed over  two or  more locations                                                                    
     between  providers who  are  physically separated  from                                                                    
     the recipient or from each  other or between a provider                                                                    
     and a recipient who are physically separated from each                                                                     
     other.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        The changes to Section 1 of this bill applies to                                                                        
     health care insurance plans that are offered, issued,                                                                      
     delivered, or renewed on or after the effective date.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The effective date is July 1, 2019.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:49:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ opened invited testimony on HB 358.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:49:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AROM  EVANS,  MD,  Medical   Director,  Orion  Behavioral  Health                                                               
Network, stated support for the  proposed bill, pointing out that                                                               
telemedicine  was   an  extremely  important  service   for  many                                                               
residents of  rural villages as  it was  not realistic to  have a                                                               
psychiatrist reside  in these communities.   He pointed  out that                                                               
sometimes  private   insurance  did   not  pay   for  telehealth,                                                               
resulting  in difficulties  for many  patients.   He stated  that                                                               
neglect of  mental health issues  tended to drive up  health care                                                               
costs, and that payment by  private insurers for telehealth would                                                               
save money for the state.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:53:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY asked  if  the  Orion Behavioral  Health                                                               
Network partnered with Alaska providers  who had encountered this                                                               
challenge.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. EVANS  explained that  there were  Alaska providers  in their                                                               
network  and   they  had  encountered  difficulties   in  getting                                                               
services paid for both in and out of state providers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:55:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LYN FREEMAN,  Ph.D., Mind Matters Research,  declared her support                                                               
for  the proposed  bill.    She shared  some  background for  her                                                               
practice, stating that she treated  patients who were referred to                                                               
her  with  chronic disease  and  behavioral  or emotional  issues                                                               
which  contributed  to  a  worsening   of  the  condition.    She                                                               
practiced  various  forms  of integrative  approaches,  including                                                               
non-pharmalogical pain  management.  She  reported that  about 40                                                               
percent of  her practice  was through  tele-health as  travel was                                                               
not  possible for  these patients.    She reported  that she  had                                                               
tested her research for  psychological interventions for patients                                                               
with  chronic  diseases  through  both live  delivery  and  tele-                                                               
health,  and that  improvement outcome  was  equivalent for  both                                                               
systems  of  delivery.    She  shared  that  she  had  maintained                                                               
training  for the  ethical aspect  in the  use of  telehealth for                                                               
mental  health  treatment.    She   reported  that  these  ethics                                                               
trainings had pointed out that  it was preferable to treat people                                                               
in  your  own state  as  it  was  easier  to know  the  resources                                                               
available   should   something   happen   during   the   distance                                                               
treatments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:59:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ opened public testimony  and after determining no                                                               
one wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 358.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:59:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN asked  about  the scope  of the  benefits                                                               
being provided.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:00:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ,  as  the  sponsor of  HB  358,  clarified  that                                                               
receiving medical care  via telehealth did not mean  not seeing a                                                               
doctor.    As  telehealth  was  a delivery  system,  it  was  not                                                               
necessary to  limit the scope in  the proposed bill.   She shared                                                               
that she did  not want to put limits on  the creativity of health                                                               
care providers based  on the current ability to  imagine what can                                                               
and cannot be done, and that  this would allow the marketplace to                                                               
develop.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:01:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked if this  meant that any  benefits a                                                               
health care insurer provided coverage  for should also be covered                                                               
via telehealth.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ emphasized  that this  was intentionally  broad,                                                               
and that  this was  based on  her own  experiences for  not being                                                               
able to access health care services  via telehealth.  This led to                                                               
the exploration  of the  concept of telehealth  as it  related to                                                               
private  insurance.   She stated  that,  as not  all health  care                                                               
insurers would  currently pay for  this, it  was time to  move in                                                               
that direction.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:03:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICTORIA KNAPP, Chief Operating  Officer, Mat-Su Health Services,                                                               
stated that  she was  in support  of HB 358.   She  reported that                                                               
several years  ago Mat-Su  Health Services had  moved to  a tele-                                                               
medicine  model for  some of  their  psychiatric evaluations  and                                                               
medication  management appointments  to  meet some  of the  unmet                                                               
need for these  services in the borough.  She  declared that they                                                               
were a safety net provider,  funded by the federal government and                                                               
the Division of  Behavioral Health.  She shared  that, as several                                                               
large insurance providers  in the state did  not provide coverage                                                               
for  tele-health services,  families  and  individuals were  left                                                               
with the  choice of a  very large  bill or looking  elsewhere for                                                               
psychiatry  services.    She   declared  frustration  that  these                                                               
insurers did not cover tele-health psychiatry.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:05:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY  moved to  report  HB  358, Version  30-                                                               
LS1216\J, out  of committee  with individual  recommendations and                                                               
the attached zero fiscal notes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:05:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN objected.  He  explained that all his U.S.                                                               
Department of  Veterans Affairs health  care through  his primary                                                               
care doctor in Orlando, Florida,  was via tele-health.  He stated                                                               
his appreciation for  the value, and opined  that, although there                                                               
were cost  savings to be gained,  the market was not  ready for a                                                               
mandate  that any  provided health  care also  be accessible  via                                                               
tele-health.   He offered his  belief that, if it  made financial                                                               
sense,  providers  would  go  that direction.    He  stated  that                                                               
telehealth  was  not  everything  it   could  be,  and  that  the                                                               
providers should have the option to not have to use it.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:07:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SULLIVAN-LEONARD asked  if  there was  a list  of                                                               
what  was approved  for telehealth  medicine  for procedures  and                                                               
oversight for patients.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:07:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NISBETT said  that there  was a  list of  procedures on  the                                                               
Alaska Native Medical Center website that were accepted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ pointed out that this was a different category.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:08:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNA LATHAM,  Deputy Director, Division of  Insurance, Department                                                               
of  Commerce, Community  & Economic  Development, clarified  that                                                               
the  proposed bill  allowed for  insurance companies  to pay  for                                                               
telehealth  services in  both the  group and  individual markets.                                                               
She stated that  the benefits that were already in  the plans for                                                               
essential health benefits, as well  as any other benefits covered                                                               
by the plan, would be allowable  for telehealth.  She stated that                                                               
the list  of benefits for  the Alaska  Native Health plans  was a                                                               
separate program.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:09:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY asked whether  the proposed bill mandated                                                               
that  an individual  utilize telehealth  services, or  whether it                                                               
just provided  the authorization  for the  insurance plans  to be                                                               
billed for those services.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM replied that there was  not a mandate, that it allowed                                                               
the  insurance  companies  to cover  telehealth  services  beyond                                                               
mental health, which was currently in statute.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:09:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN asked  whether a  current benefit  from a                                                               
health  care plan  would now  also  be provided  as a  telehealth                                                               
option.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM  explained that, with  the proposed bill,  the insurer                                                               
can pay if you utilize telehealth.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:10:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN asked  about the  definition of  shall in                                                               
this specific context.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:10:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM  explained that  the proposed  billed stated  that the                                                               
insurers  shall provide  coverage for  benefits provided  through                                                               
telehealth.   This  may  or may  not  require in-person  contact.                                                               
This  proposed  bill  simply  allowed  large,  small  group,  and                                                               
individual market coverage to pay for telehealth services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  asked for clarification  that the  proposed bill                                                               
was not requiring people to  use telehealth, but it was requiring                                                               
insurance companies to cover telehealth  services should the plan                                                               
have a provision for such  services.  She acknowledged that there                                                               
were  some services  which did  not make  sense for  delivery via                                                               
telehealth.  She  pointed out that there were a  lot of insurance                                                               
plans offered in  the State of Alaska which were  not required to                                                               
cover telehealth.  She stated that  this bill was not saying what                                                               
kind  of health  care should  be  covered by  telehealth, it  was                                                               
saying that the insurance provider  should pay for the service if                                                               
it was delivered via telehealth.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:12:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked  where he could go to  find out what                                                               
services were available  by telehealth.  He asked  if one insurer                                                               
decided to  provide a benefit  via telehealth, did all  the other                                                               
insurers need to match.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ said  that was  a decision  between him  and his                                                               
health care provider.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:13:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN maintained his objection.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:13:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives  Spohnholz, Tarr,                                                               
Sullivan-Leonard, Johnston, Zulkosky, and Kito  voted in favor of                                                               
HB 358.   Representatives Eastman  voted against it.   Therefore,                                                               
HB 358 was  reported out of the House Health  and Social Services                                                               
Standing Committee by a vote of 6 yeas - 1 nay.                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 174 30-LS1258 D.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 2/21/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Sponsor Statement.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 2/21/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Fiscal Note.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 2/21/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Supporting Documents.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 2/21/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Public Input.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 2/21/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Supporting Documents - Written Testimony - Laura Bonner - 3.13.2018.pdf HCRA 3/13/2018 8:00:00 AM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 174
SB174 Supporting Document-Support Letter 03.15.2018.pdf HCRA 3/15/2018 8:00:00 AM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Supporting Documents - Written Testimony - Laura Bonner - 3.13.2018.pdf HHSS 3/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 174
SB174 Fiscal Note DHSS-SDSA 03.15.2018.pdf HHSS 3/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 174
SB174 Sectional Analysis ver D 03.15.2018.pdf HHSS 3/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 174
SB174 Sponsor Statement 03.15.18.pdf HHSS 3/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 174
SB174 supporting Documents-2018 Alaska's Developmental Disabilities System 03.15.2018.pdf HHSS 3/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 174
SB174 Supporting Document-Support Letter-Lizette Stiehr 03.15.2018.pdf HHSS 3/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HR 3
SB 174
SB174 Supporting Document-Support Letters 03.15.2018.pdf HHSS 3/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 174
SB174 Supporting Document--Written Testimony from Kenai LIO 3.28.2018.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 174
Sai-Ling Liu 2017_Redacted.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
Medical Board Confirmation
HB 193 Addtional Documents - Policy Implications of Legislating AlaskaCare Benefits Final 2018.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB 193 Additional Document - Letter of Concern AHIP 3.28.2018.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB 193 Additional Documents - DOA Position Statement 3.26.18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB 193 Additional Document - NCSL Reports 3.28.2018.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB 193 Additional Document - Emergency CPT Code Table 3.28.2018.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB 193 Supporting document - Georgetown Universtiy Health Policy Insititute 3.28.2018.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB 193 Definitions 03.08.2018.pdf HHSS 3/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB 193 Draft Proposed Blank CS ver T 03.08.2018.pdf HHSS 3/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB 193 Sectional Analysis 03.08.2018.pdf HHSS 3/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB 193 Sponsor Statement 03.08.2018.pdf HHSS 3/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
HB193 Fiscal Note CED--IO 3.7.2018.pdf HHSS 3/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 193
SSSB108 Supporting Document Backlog Stats DCCED 2-13-18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108 Supporting Document Flow Chart 2016.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108(FIN) Fiscal Note DCCED 3-14-18.PDF HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108(FIN) Sectional Analysis 3-14-18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108(FIN) vsn I 3-14-18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108 Power Point 3-24-18_cg.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108 Version U 1-18-18.PDF HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108(FIN) Explanation of Changes 3-14-18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108 CS (FIN) Sponsor Statement 3-13-18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108 Letter of Support - Foundation Health Partners 2-7-18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108 Letter of Support ASMA 2-27-18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108 Letter of Support ASMB 2-9-18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108 Letter of Support Cmmsr Navarre 2-2-16.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
SSSB108 Support Letter AK State Medical Bd 1-24-18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
SB 108
HB358 Sectional Analysis ver J 03.07.18.pdf HHSS 3/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 358
HJR032 Sponsor Statement 2.27.18.pdf HHSS 3/29/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 32